Michael Moore - Breaking the Law Again
Right on queue, Michael Moore is shooting his mouth off again. Not that I want to help make this a big story, but I'm sure the media will fall all over each other to talk about this anyways.
The timing is exactly the same as in 2004 - the Friday before the election. The script is the same. The Liberals probably called him.
I will reference Section 331 of the elections act, which states:
At the bottom of Michael's inaccurate message is this:
The timing is exactly the same as in 2004 - the Friday before the election. The script is the same. The Liberals probably called him.
I will reference Section 331 of the elections act, which states:
331. No person who does not reside in Canada shall, during an election period, in any way induce electors to vote or refrain from voting or vote or refrain from voting for a particular candidate unless the person isIf this person were a Conservative, charges WOULD be laid. The Liberals created this law, but they only enforce it when it benefits them to do so.
(a) a Canadian citizen; or
(b) a permanent resident within the meaning of subsection 2(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.
S.C. 2001, c. 27, s. 211.
At the bottom of Michael's inaccurate message is this:
"(Mr. Moore is not available for interviews because he now needs to address the situation in Azerbaijan. But he could be talked into it for a couple of tickets to a Leaf's game.)"I'm sure the Liberals will be happy to hook him up.
posted by Toronto Tory at 10:48 AM
13 Comments:
Michael Moore doesn't get it. It's the bath water we want to get rid of, not the baby. The Liberal sludge is poisoning us all and Canadians know it.
I wouldn't worry too much about what Moore says. Few of those who are inclined to listen to him would put integrity ahead of some perverted sense of progressivism anyway.
Do you know what an "inducement" is in the context of this act? An inducement is the offering of some kind of reward (money, for example) in exchange for some kind of action, in this case a vote. Since Michael Moore isn't paying people or giving away prizes to people who vote against the Conservatives, he's not guilt of anything.
Just what is your point, TT? Is MM not free to speak his mind? No person who isn't a Canadian citizen or permanent resident can comment on the Canadian election? I hope Stephen's first act is to send JTF2 down to Flint to capture MM and spirit him to The Hauge to face trial. Actually, Dubaya would probably hand him over no problem, now that I think about it.
Thanks for the laugh my fellow Torontonian!
bcer, my point is that a LIBERAL law says that MM is NOT free to speak his mind. Remember when the American ambassador complained about Paul Martin? The Liberals filed a complaint with elections Canada.
If they're going to create a law like this, they should be consistent.
Induce (dictionary.com):
1. "To lead or move, as to a course of action, by influence or persuasion"
2. "To bring about or stimulate the occurrence of; cause:"
I don't remember that incident TT, was it recently? I know the Libs (pretended) to be pissed at Wilkins' comments last month, but I wasn't aware they filed a complaint with Elections Canada.
Anyway, I really think you're off on the meaning of inducing, dictionary.com aside. As thickslab mentioned, the context here is important too.
However, if you feel that MM has breached the Elections Act then you as a citizen have the right (responsibility?) to file a complaint. I trust you'll be doing that shortly?
(1) The Elections Act is not a "Liberal Law." It's been around in various forms since the turn of the century.
(2) The definition of "induce" in the dictionary does not apply here. It is irrelevant. No court would ever interpret the act the way you do.
(3) Please provide a link showing that the Liberals filed a complaint with Elections Canada.
"If this person were a Conservative, charges WOULD be laid. The Liberals created this law, but they only enforce it when it benefits them to do so."
Remember this story about Ralph Reed advocating for the Conservatives so a "New Canada" could be created under socially conservative principles? I highlighted it on Cerberus, without even advocating criminal retribution, just stating my concern about American influence. Same as this article in the conservative Washington Times. There are lots more.
The American far right is far more interested and directly involved in this election than the American left or the American moderates. Seems to me that they, particularly Ralph Reed, go way further than Michael Moore does and, despite your claims TT, none of them have been charged with anything.
And unlike them, Michael Moore is just spewing out words. He's not crossing to border to fundraise, finance, organze, or train Canadians on how to change Canadian laws and culture so it is more like American laws and culture.
TB
Cerberus
Cerberus, I have volunteered on several campaigns in several ridings, and I have *never* seen a single American there organizing, training, canvassing, anything.
I think it the context of the law one has to use the strict dictionary definition of a word.
The fact that there is some confusion indicates that perhaps the law was poorly constructed.
To thickslab, I'm obviously not referring to the entire elections act, I'm referring to the amendments that the Liberals added in 2001. I'm pretty sure you knew that though.
Have you people noticed that on top of doing something totally wrong, something illegal (or border-line illegal), he is insulting us Canadians with a little condescending comment?;
"[...] But you have a parliamentary system (I'll bet you didn't know that -- see, that's why you need Americans telling you things!)."
Yep that is what Moore is saying, read it again!
And then get on your knees and say;
"Thank you oh great lord of the left, oh our King Mooron thank you for telling us what we Canadians are too stupid and too ignorant to know."
...
A parliamentary system really?
Here in Canada?
Where would we be - us small time stupid-ignorant little Canadians without Saint-Michael icon of the left?
I think our GG, Michael Jean should give him some Canadian medal and make a big event out of it - which would be showned live on CBC and Radio-Canada - which would cost us a few millions, but would give us such a warm feeling inside...
What is that taste in my mouth? oh...vomit...what can I say... Moore and his defenders make me sick.
Moore is nothing but a retarded, talentless hack, a fat tub of s*** who needs to STFU.
Man if I ever met that a***** in public, it would be all I could do to stop myself from running up to him, giving him a few swift kicks to the 'nards, then giving him the mother of all atomic wedgies!!
Woa. Somebody seriously needs a refresher course in Basic International Law 101...
OK, since you hardly seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer, I'll try and lay it simple for you:
1) Michael Moore is not currently a resident of Canada, he is not even on Canadian soil.
2) He is not a Canadian citizen.
Consequence: Canadian law doesn't apply to him.
Is that simple enough or should I add a diagram for you?
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